Should we forgive those who are not repentant? conditional vs unconditional forgiveness

The most famous recent example of forgiving somebody is probably Erica Kirk the late wife of Charlie, who was tragically assassinated by a horrible misguided young person in Utah. And yet as far as we know this young person is not repentant, has not even actually accepted responsibility for it, and maybe is going to try to dodge responsibility by pleading not guilty and seeing if he can get away with it. So he has not accepted responsibility, has not pled guilty, and as far as we know shows no remorse.

 Nonetheless Erica, at the funeral memorial service at the large stadium in Arizona in probably the most publicized excerpt by the media said she

 " forgives this young man ". 

Was this the right thing to do? What would Jesus do? There are Biblical arguments for conditional forgiveness as well as for unconditional forgiveness.  Read below and you can make your own decision , decide for yourself. God bless you 🙏 ✝️ 

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"The discerning heart seeks knowledge" — Proverbs 15:14

Yes — there is a biblical argument made by some theologians against unconditional forgiveness, especially when the offender does not repent or want forgiveness. This view is less common in modern preaching, but it is absolutely present in Christian theology, especially in Reformed and older Protestant traditions.

Below is the strongest biblical argument against forgiving the unrepentant, presented the way serious theologians frame it.

The Repentance-Required View (Theological Argument Against Forgiving the Unrepentant)

1. God Himself does not forgive the unrepentant

This is the core of the argument.

The Bible repeatedly says God requires repentance before forgiveness:

"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him." — Luke 17:3

"Repent… so that your sins may be wiped out." — Acts 3:19

"Unless you repent, you will all perish." — Luke 13:3

The logic is:

> If God does not forgive without repentance, and we are commanded to imitate God's character,

then Christians should not forgive without repentance either.

This is the central theological point.

2. Jesus says if they repent, forgive — implying a condition

Luke 17:3–4 is the strongest text:

> "If he repents, forgive him."

Many theologians argue:

Jesus could have said, "Forgive him no matter what,"

but instead He built repentance into the requirement.

This creates a clear conditional structure that some scholars say cannot be ignored.

3. Forgiveness in Scripture is often tied to reconciliation — which requires repentance

Forgiveness in the Bible is not always an internal emotional release; sometimes it is a restoration of relationship, which cannot happen without repentance.

Amos 3:3 — "Can two walk together unless they be agreed?"

Matthew 18 (the church discipline chapter) requires confrontation and repentance before restoration.

The argument:

Biblical forgiveness is relational, and relationships require repentance from wrongdoing.

4. Unconditional forgiveness can undermine justice

Some theologians argue that forgiving unrepentant people:

Minimizes sin

Short-circuits the need for repentance

Sends a false message that God overlooks sin without change

Verses supporting that God cares deeply about justice:

Proverbs 17:15 — "He who justifies the wicked… is an abomination."

Romans 2:5 — the unrepentant store up wrath for themselves

Thus, they argue that premature forgiveness might actually oppose God's justice.

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5. Jesus' example on the cross does not equal forgiveness

Many theologians argue:

> Jesus asked the Father to forgive His killers,

but that is not the same as actually granting forgiveness.

They argue:

Jesus did not pronounce forgiveness

The soldiers did not receive forgiveness unless they later repented

Jesus' prayer expresses God's compassionate heart, not automatic absolution

This is a major counterargument in scholarly circles.

6. Paul never tells believers to forgive unrepentant people

Paul consistently ties forgiveness to restoration after discipline and repentance:

2 Corinthians 2:6–8 — forgiveness is extended after the offender repents.

1 Corinthians 5 — do not restore or reconcile with the unrepentant.

The argument:

Paul's model includes boundaries and discipline, not unconditional forgiveness.

7. Practical theological concern: forgiveness without repentance enables sin

Classic Reformed theologians (including some Puritan writers) argue:

> Forgiving someone who does not repent encourages them to remain in rebellion.

Thus:

Sin must be confronted

Repentance must be required

Only then does forgiveness reflect God's own pattern

Summary of the Repentance-Required Argument

From this viewpoint:

Forgiveness should follow the pattern of God's forgiveness

That pattern includes repentance

Unrepentant sinners are not forgiven by God, so Christians should not pronounce forgiveness prematurely

You can still release bitterness, but true forgiveness (restoration, pardon) is withheld until repentance

So yes — there is a real biblical case against forgiving people who don't want forgiveness.

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"Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD" — Isaiah 1:18

Here is the best Christian argument for unconditional forgiveness, the strongest side of the debate, grounded in Scripture, early church tradition, and the teachings of Jesus.

This is the view taught by many pastors, church fathers, and modern Christian teachers.

THE ARGUMENT FOR UNCONDITIONAL FORGIVENESS

(Forgiving even if they don't repent, don't care, don't ask, or don't want it.)

1. Jesus forgave people who never repented

This is the centerpiece of the unconditional-forgiveness view.

Jesus on the cross said:

> "Father, forgive them…" (Luke 23:34)

The Roman soldiers:

Did not repent

Did not ask

Did not care

Did not even understand what they were doing

Yet Jesus extended a prayer of forgiveness toward them while they were committing the crime.

This shows forgiveness is an act of grace, not a transaction.

2. Jesus commands forgiveness with no conditions attached

In the Sermon on the Mount:

"Forgive us… as we forgive others"

(Matthew 6:12)

Jesus does not qualify this with:

"If they apologize"

"If they feel remorse"

"If they ask"

Again in Matthew 6:14–15, the command is unconditional.

3. Forgiving others imitates how God forgave us

But here's the key:

We were forgiven before we repented.

Romans 5:8:

> "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

God initiated forgiveness toward us first, before any repentance was possible.

The argument:

If God loved, initiated grace, and offered forgiveness while we were unrepentant, we must extend the same posture.

4. Forgiveness and reconciliation are different

This is extremely important.

Jesus' command to forgive unconditionally does not mean:

restoring the relationship

trusting the person

removing consequences

pretending nothing happened

Forgiveness = you release the debt and bitterness

Reconciliation = requires repentance and change

So Christians forgive unconditionally, but reconcile conditionally.

This allows forgiveness to be unlimited while justice still exists.

5. Forgiveness is part of spiritual health

Refusing to forgive while waiting for someone to "earn" it creates:

bitterness

spiritual bondage

corruption of the heart

anger that takes root

Hebrews 12:15 warns about "the root of bitterness" defiling a person.

Forgiveness is therefore:

an act of obedience

an act of freedom

an act of spiritual protection

And none of these require the other person's cooperation.

6. Proverbs and Jesus' teachings emphasize mercy, not reciprocity

Jesus commands:

"Love your enemies."

(Matthew 5:44)

He does not say "love your repentant enemies."

Showing kindness and grace to unrepentant people reflects the Father's character:

"He causes His sun to rise on the evil & the good."

(Matthew 5:45)

This is the basis for forgiving even those who don't want forgiveness.

7. Early church fathers taught unconditional forgiveness

Such as:

Tertullian

Clement of Alexandria

John Chrysostom

They consistently argued that Christians must forgive:

enemies

persecutors

slanderers

abusers

betrayers

even when these people showed zero repentance.

Because forgiveness is an internal posture of mercy, not approval of their actions.

8. Forgiveness frees you, not the offender

Unforgiveness binds your heart, but forgiveness releases you from the weight of:

revenge

anger

bitterness

resentment

From this view, forgiveness is something you do with God, not with the offender.

SUMMARY: THE UNCONDITIONAL FORGIVENESS POSITION

Forgive even if they:

show no remorse

deny wrongdoing

don't want forgiveness

refuse reconciliation

Because:

Jesus forgave the unrepentant

Jesus commands unconditional forgiveness

We were forgiven before repenting

Forgiveness protects our hearts

Forgiveness ≠ reconciliation

Early church taught the same

"Teach me Your way, O LORD, that I may walk in Your truth" — Psalm 86:11

Here is the clear, balanced, side-by-side comparison of the two major Christian positions on forgiveness:

CONDITIONAL VS UNCONDITIONAL FORGIVENESS

A biblical & theological comparison

1. BASIC DEFINITIONS

Conditional Forgiveness (Repentance Required)

You forgive after the offender repents.

Forgiveness means reconciliation + restored relationship.

Unconditional Forgiveness (No Repentance Required)

You forgive regardless of repentance.

Forgiveness means releasing bitterness and giving justice to God.

2. CORE BIBLE VERSES TO SUPPORT EACH VIEW

Conditional View (Repentance required)

Luke 17:3 — "If he repents, forgive him."

Matthew 18:15–17 — Restoration after confrontation and repentance.

Acts 3:19 — "Repent… so sins may be wiped out."

2 Corinthians 2:6–8 — Forgiveness given after a sinner repents.

Unconditional View (No repentance required)

Luke 23:34 — Jesus forgave unrepentant executioners.

Matthew 6:14–15 — Forgive with no conditions.

Matthew 5:44 — Love your enemies (unrepentant enemies).

Ephesians 4:31–32 — Forgive as God forgave us (initiated before we repented).

3. HOW EACH VIEW DEFINES FORGIVENESS

Conditional

Forgiveness = release + reconciliation

Requires repentance

You don't forgive someone who refuses to admit wrongdoing

Withholding forgiveness pressures the offender toward repentance

Unconditional

Forgiveness = releasing anger, not necessarily reconciling

Does NOT remove boundaries

You forgive to obey Jesus & free your heart

Reconciliation still requires repentance

4. EXAMPLES FROM JESUS' LIFE

Conditional View Interpretation

Jesus forgave after repentance (e.g., Peter after denying Him)

The Luke 23:34 prayer wasn't forgiveness itself—just a request

Unconditional View Interpretation

Jesus forgave violent, unrepentant men on the cross

Jesus taught forgiveness as a posture, not a negotiation

5. PURPOSE OF FORGIVENESS

Conditional

Protects justice

Prevents cheap grace

Avoids pretending sin doesn't matter

Encourages repentance

Unconditional

Breaks bitterness

Sets the believer free

Reflects Jesus' mercy

Honors God's heart toward enemies

6. WHY PEOPLE CHOOSE EACH VIEW

Why some Christians choose conditional forgiveness

They want justice to be upheld

They worry unconditional forgiveness rewards evil

They emphasize passages about church discipline, repentance & accountability

They define forgiveness as restoration, not just emotional release

Why some Christians choose unconditional forgiveness

They see Jesus' example on the cross as the model

They do not want to stay in bitterness

They emphasize love of enemies & mercy

They separate forgiveness from reconciliation

7. WHAT BOTH SIDES AGREE ON

This is extremely important.

✔ Bitterness is sin

✔ Reconciliation requires repentance

✔ Boundaries can be necessary

✔ You must let go of revenge

✔ Justice belongs to God

✔ Forgiveness is commanded by Jesus in some form

The disagreement is only about:

Do we offer forgiveness before repentance, or after?

8. WHICH VIEW IS "MORE BIBlical"?

Both views have biblical support.

Both have serious theologians behind them.

But here's how the majority breaks down:

Most modern pastors & evangelical teachers lean:

➡️ Unconditional forgiveness (because of Jesus on the cross)

Most Reformed, conservative, or Puritan theologians lean:

➡️ Conditional forgiveness (because of Luke 17:3)

Most early church fathers leaned:

➡️ Unconditional forgiveness

So the split is real and longstanding.

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9. THE PRACTICAL REALITY: BOTH CAN BE TRUE

Many Christians resolve the tension this way:

Forgive unconditionally in your heart

to release bitterness

AND

Reconcile only if they repent

to restore the relationship.

This combines the strengths of both positions.

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Happy Thanksgiving from this famous (or infamous ?) Calvin Alum: 8 of his 9 children also went to Calvin

 

that was a very strange response from the late roger greenway

that was a very strange response from the late roger greenway. I reached out to this former professor of mine with a video showing him the mission work we did in the philippines, and he responded " i always knew you were creative" . say what ? i wasn't expecting a response   since i had moved on from CTS but if anything I would have expected "Praise the Lord" or "great work for the kingdom" etc. but he comments "how creative" ?! that was a little weird. I never really figured out this Greenway guy. mysterious. a little off ? not face value ?

The missionary's intense period of travel and reflection is paused for a crucial "story time"—an elaboration of a significant past event. I will integrate this narrative into the flowing report, ensuring the account is clear and respects the requested pseudonyms.

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📖 The Missionary's Story: The Magazine, The Mailbox, and The Miscarriage of Justice

The missionary took a necessary pause in the travel log on Thursday, September 16th, 2021, to record a story of a difficult family event that left lasting, negative implications, emphasizing the importance of truth and reputation.

The Incident in Jackson Hole (Circa 1990s)

During a summer stay at the PG's House in Jackson Hole, the missionary was asked by Aunt Mary to pick up the mail from the Post Office Box, as delivery was not made to the house. Among the collected items was, embarrassingly, a "girlie magazine" addressed to Cousin Tom.

Caption: A Spiritual Stewardship

The missionary, reflecting on personal Christian values—specifically the need to "avoid sins of the flesh"—took it upon Himself to hide the magazine from Tom, operating under the assumption that Tom might not notice or remember its expected arrival.

However, the assumed secret was quickly shattered. Later that same afternoon, the missionary heard a heated argument downstairs involving Cousin Tom, the special needs cousin Arnold, and Aunt Mary, all focused on the missing magazine. The missionary was the only one who had picked up the mail, making His involvement clear.

The central, troubling question for the missionary was, "WHY would they know it's coming that exact day, that's the question."

The missionary retrieved the magazine, which had not yet been discarded, and presented it. The missionary recalled that no explanation was given, and no preaching was done ("although I probably should have"). The missionary simply handed it over and walked away, and the immediate confrontation ended.

The False Narrative and Lasting Harm

The true harm from the incident arose from gossip. The missionary infers that Arnold (or perhaps Aunt Mary), whom the missionary felt "has always really hated me," began gossiping to the Beatrice & Lonny family (Uncle Warnock's brother and sister-in-law).

Caption: The Poison of Gossip

The core lie was a false narration implying that the missionary had taken the magazine for "His own self-gratification" rather than the true, Christian-motivated reason for taking it away to prevent sin. The missionary noted that this was impossible, as "By that time in life I was long past any kind of adolescent behavior such that kind implied by this incident."

The missionary was "never given a chance to explain," and the impact on reputation was immediate and severe. Beatrice's opinion of the missionary "dropped precipitously," to the point where "She wouldn't even talk to me."

The Missionary's Conclusion: A Setup?

The evidence—that the family knew the magazine was arriving that exact day and noticed its specific absence—led the missionary to a strong inference:

Blockquote:

"The fact that they knew the magazine was coming that day & noticed it missing actually led me to believe that this was a setup to see if I would take it so they could actually create a false narration that I had taken it for my own self-gratification even though that was NOT the truth. That was the only time Aunt Mary ever asked me to pick up the mail for them as well, before or after. So I just wanted to lay that out there and let people decide for themselves."

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Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. - Leviticus 19:16 (King James Version).

Modern-Day Example of Talebearing:

This verse condemns gossip and the spread of damaging stories, or talebearing, among the people of God.

The modern-day example is the devastating effect of the false narrative spread by the gossip after the magazine incident. The missionary's Christian-motivated act of stewardship was twisted into a claim of personal vice, permanently damaging the missionary's reputation with Beatrice. This illustrates how talebearing, even if subtly done or falsely implied, stands against the "blood of thy neighbour" by attacking their good name and virtue, causing emotional and relational harm, just as it did decades ago in the family setting.

Who was Jeff Pettinga

"The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and He delighteth in his way." — Psalm 37:23

Here are some detailed archival findings about Jeffrey R. Pettinga (also known as "Coach P") — former coach at Grand Rapids Christian High School (GRCHS) and longtime coach at Calvin University (formerly Calvin College) — based on publicly‑available records. I am about 90% sure of the accuracy of the following details.

Jeffrey R. Pettinga

✅ Verified Background & Career Highlights

Pettinga is listed on the Calvin University website as "Mr. Jeffrey Pettinga, Physical Education, Emeritus" in the Department of Kinesiology. 

According to the alumni Hall of Fame bio for Grand Rapids Christian High School (GRCHS), Pettinga (Class of 1963) coached there multiple sports including wrestling, JV & varsity football, and varsity baseball. He later moved to Calvin College (now Calvin University) in 1977 and served as head baseball coach for 27 seasons. 

His tenure at Calvin's baseball program included conference championships (MIAA) in 1980, 1984, 2000, and 2002. 

Earlier faculty records show Pettinga was appointed as Assistant Professor of Physical Education at Calvin in the 1970s. 

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🧮 Additional Details

Education: He earned a Bachelor's Degree from Calvin College and a Master's Degree from Michigan State University. 

In his Hall of Fame bio at GRCHS, he's referred to as "Coach P," and his greatest passion is listed as baseball. 

On the Calvin website's "A Lasting Impact" story, former players attribute meaningful mentorship to him:

> "In 1989… Tyler… knew that Jeff — still calls him Coach… would be an incredible mentor." 

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⚠️ What is Not Fully Verified

Precise dates for when he began and ended each coaching role (at GRCHS vs. Calvin) are not exhaustively documented in the publicly accessible sources I found.

Specifics of his academic role (what courses he taught, his full faculty rank progression) beyond "Physical Education/Emeritus" are limited.

Any post‑Calvin career details, retirement date, or additional roles beyond those listed are not extensively found.

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📝 Summary

Jeffrey R. Pettinga is a well‑recognized coach and educator in West Michigan, with a long history at both Grand Rapids Christian High School and Calvin University. He made significant impact especially in baseball (as a head coach) and physical education. His record includes multiple conference championships and a strong legacy of mentorship.

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If 

🎓 Background & Education

Pettinga graduated from Grand Rapids Christian High School (Class of 1963). 

He earned his Bachelor's degree from Calvin College and a Master's from Michigan State University. 

At Calvin University he is listed as "Physical Education, Emeritus" in the Department of Kinesiology. 

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🏫 Coaching Career at GRCHS

After graduation, Pettinga taught and coached within the GRCH / East Christian school system through the 1960s and 1970s. (He taught Physical Education starting in 1965 at East Christian, which later became part of GRCHS.) 

He coached multiple sports at GRCHS: tennis, wrestling, JV & varsity football (including 3 years as head coach), and varsity baseball. 

His varsity baseball teams at GRCHS won City League championships in 1970 and 1977. 

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🥎 Coaching Career at Calvin University

In 1977, Pettinga moved to Calvin College where he served as a faculty member and coach. 

He was head coach of Calvin's wrestling program for 5 seasons. 

His "greatest passion" was baseball; he served as head baseball coach at Calvin for 27 seasons. 

Under his leadership, Calvin's baseball teams won Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA) championships in 1980, 1984, 2000, and 2002. 

Several of his teams earned berths in the NCAA Division III National Tournament (specifically his 1984, 2000, and 2002 squads). 

Calvin University's official site and posts (e.g., alumni reunion or "legendary coach visits" posts) reference Pettinga as a respected "emeritus" coach who continues to have an alumni presence. 

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🧑 Personal & Legacy

Pettinga is affectionately referred to as "Coach P" or "Coach Pettinga" by his former players and school community. 

According to his GRCHS Hall of Fame bio, he and his wife Arlene have five daughters (Lisa, Cindy, Julie, Debra, Laurie), all of whom are GRCHS graduates. 

His motto (quoted in his bio) references Philippians 4:13: "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." 

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📌 Significance

Jeff Pettinga's long tenure (27 seasons) and multiple championships at Calvin highlight him as one of the more notable coaches in the region's college baseball history.

His earlier work at GRCHS shows a strong high‑school coaching foundation, which likely helped shape his later success.

The combination of educator, multi‑sport coach, and mentor in Christian school settings appears central to his legacy.

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Flashback video: Anthony Diekema & sons at 1976 inauguration, Calvin University

https://youtube.com/shorts/121lIQqZl9U?si=cCePVg5w3r9Bu9y6 

exclusive photo-video found of President Diekema the day of his inauguration as new president of Calvin College (1976-1995)

 

that's Tony with two of his sons 

student ptv's

 

courses completed

Fuller Seminary

• American Church History (CH506)

• Exegetical Method (NE502)

• New Testament II Acts to Revelation (NS501)

• Systematic Theology II: Christology/Soteriology (ST502)

• Pastoral Counseling (CN520) (Hammer)

• New Testament I: The Gospels (NS500)

• Pentateuch (OT501)

• Systematic Theology I (ST501) (Miroslav Volf)

• Book of Acts (NE516)

• Writings (OT504) (Includes Psalms, Job, Proverbs, the Scrolls, Daniel, Ezra‐Nehemiah, and Chronicles)

• Spirituality of the Psalms (OT572)

• Hebrew Prophets (OT502)

• Systematic Theology III (ST503)

• Foundation of Ministry II (GM504)

• Pauline Theology (NS531)

• Person & Practice of Ministry (PM511)

• Preaching II (PR511)

• Christian Ethics (ET501)

• New Testament Exegesis: Hebrews (NE506)

• Book of Amos (OT521)

• Homiletics (PR500)

• Discipleship, Secular Society (ET533)

• Beginning Hebrew (LG502)

• Worship in a Jewish Context (MR529)

• Dietrich Bonhoeffer (ST572)

• Ethics of Pastoral Care (CN552)

• Foundations of Ministry (GM503)

• Aramaic (LG525)

• Book of Jeremiah (OT516)

• Apologetics (PH508)

• Preaching (PR511)

• Missiology Integration (MI520)

• Theories of Human Nature (PH505)

Calvin Seminary

• Ethics (531A)

• Church History (311A, 312A, 313A)

• Missions (801A, 862A, 802A)

• Worship (650A)

• Teaching Ministry (750A)

• Theology (411A)

• Church & Ministry (602A)

Calvin College (University)

• Psychology of Education (Educ 301)

• Intro to Teaching (Educ 303)

• Reading Content, secondary (Educ 307)

• Reading Strategies, secondary (Educ 308)

• Philosophy of Education (Phil 209)

• Survey of English Literature (Engl 202)

• Literature of the USA II (Engl 311)

• Recent British & American Literature (Engl 319)

• History of English Language (Engl 330)

• Aerobic Aquatics (PE 111) (Timmer)

• Solzhenitsyn (Engl W50) (Ericson)

• Directed Teaching, secondary (Engl 346)

• Semester Student Teacher (Engl 359)

• Shakespeare (Engl 303)

• Modern Math (Math 100, Zwier)

• Developmental Psychology (Psy 201, Weaver)

• Motivational Psychology (Psy 330)

• Recreational Leadership (Recr 303)

• Intro: History of Art (Art 231)

• Western Civilization (Hx 101, Bratt)

• Intro to Philosophy (Phil 153, Mouw)

• Intro to Psychology (Psy 151, Terborg)

• Sociology of Prisons (Soc W52)

• Micro Economics (Econ 221)

• Written Rhetoric (Engl 100 Baron)

• Social Psychology (Psy 310)

• Biblical Theology (Rel 103, Hoeks)

• Christian Perspectives on learning (CPOL W10)

• Growing Up Wholly/Holy (W11, Sloat)

• Business Management & Organization (Bus 360)

• Business Marketing (Bus 380)

• Macro Economics (Econ 222)

• History of Cinema (Engl 251)

• Intellectual History of the USA (NA)

• Therapeutic Exercise (NA)

• Psychopathology (Psy 212)

• Statistics (Psy 250)

• American Religious History (Rel 304)

• Spanish Culture (interim)

• Semester in Spain (Spanish 101-102, 103-104)

• Weight Training (PE 114)

• Physical Science (Phys 110)

• Organizational Psychology (Psy 301)

• History of Psychology (Psy 306)

• Downhill Skiing (PE 150)

California State Long Beach (Masters of Social Work)

• S W-500-004 Found Gen SW Prac

• S W-503-001 Behave & Env-CR-Cult

• S W-505-001 Oppres GRPS: Policy

• S W-550-001 Computer/Soc Serv

• S W-596A-002 Field Instruct I (St Mary's Long Beach Emergency Room)

Chaminade University of Honolulu

• Anthropology (An 200)

• Biology & Lab 101

• Judaism (Religion 480)

• Speech (sp 140)

Reformed Bible College (RBC) / Kuyper College

• Biblical Greek I & II (BBL 510-511, Bremer)

To understand the lesson of the feeding of 5,000 & 4,000 with a few loaves of bread🍞 u need to know about baskets

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📜 Summary: Mark 8:17-21 KJV – The Spiritual Blindness & the Baskets of Abundance: 

This passage records Jesus Christ's rebuke of His disciples for their profound spiritual dullness, immediately after His warning to "beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of Herod." The disciples, worried about a literal lack of food, failed to grasp the significance of the two miraculous feedings they had just witnessed.

Jesus' series of questions is a lesson in spiritual memory and perception:

 "How is it that ye do not understand?"

 (Mark 8:21 KJV).

I. The Core Rebuke: Spiritual Amnesia

The disciples' primary failure was spiritual amnesia. Despite seeing His power to feed 5,000 and then 4,000 people from almost nothing, their immediate worry over forgetting a single loaf demonstrated that temporal anxiety had eclipsed their faith in His limitless, divine provision. Jesus forces them to recall the two miracles, using the specific number of leftovers as undeniable proof of His sufficiency:

| Miracle | Loaves Used | People Fed | Fragments Left Over | Focus |

|---|---|---|---|---|

| First Feeding | Five | 5,000 | Twelve Baskets | Provision for Israel |

| Second Feeding | Seven | 4,000 | Seven Baskets | Provision for All Nations |

II. Deep Dive: The Greek Significance of the Baskets

The powerful symbolism that the disciples missed—and that we confirm through Greek exegesis—lies in the two distinct words for the "baskets full of fragments" they collected:

| Basket Type | Greek Term | KJV Translation | Cultural Context & Symbolism |

|---|---|---|---|

| Small, Personal | Kophinos (κόφινος) | baskets (Mark 8:19) | A small hamper used by Jewish travelers to carry ritually clean provisions. The Twelve kophinos symbolize the completeness of God's provision for the Twelve Tribes of Israel. 

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| Large, Common | Spyris (σπυρίς) | baskets (Mark 8:20) | A large, non-Jewish wicker basket, common in the Gentile world. The Seven spyris (seven signifying spiritual fullness/completion) confirm the extension of God's provision to the Gentile world (all nations). 

The disciples immediately understood that these were two different types of containers. Jesus was not giving them a riddle; He was challenging them: "I am the Provider of both the Jew (12 kophinos) and the Gentile (7 spyris). 

Why are you still worried about physical bread when my power is so abundantly evident and universal?"

III. The Lesson of the Fragments

The fragments represent the superabundance of God's grace and provision. They are tangible, physical reminders that when Jesus Christ provides, He does so not just enough to meet the need, but with a massive, unforgettable surplus. They stand as a perpetual testimony against the worry and spiritual blindness that caused the disciples to mistake His warning about false doctrine ("leaven") for a concern about a forgotten lunch.

A modern-day application: When we are overwhelmed by crisis or doubt, Jesus points us to the fragments—the history of His faithfulness in our lives—and asks us to remember that our \text{Lord} is the unlimited Provider for all people, and \text{He} will not let His servants starve for lack of \text{His} truth or provision.

(Partially generated by ai, 

 always verify)

photo taken at calvin college 1980's ( at the president's house, where diekema lived on campus)

 

11.1.25 Calvin defeats Olivet Comets 20-50 at Christian High Field

wow ! that's Jim Timmer ?! 

he was my high school teammate at GRCH - our quarterback back in the 80's ! 

he looks eXactly like his dad now !

 (who was also the calvin athletic director before Jim Jr) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmoiaC1d_s

An often-misunderstood verse: "We know that everyone who has been born of God does not sin.." 1 John 5:18

1 John 5:18 Greek Text (Nestle-Aland 28th edition)

Greek:

> Οἴδαμεν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ οὐχ ἁμαρτάνει, ἀλλ᾽ ὁ γεννηθεὶς ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ τηρεῖ ἑαυτόν, καὶ ὁ πονηρὸς οὐχ ἅπτει αὐτοῦ.

Transliteration:

> Oídamen hóti pás ho gegennēménos ek tou Theoû ouch hamartánei, all' ho gennētheìs ek tou Theoû tēreî heautón, kai ho ponērós ouch háptei autoû.

Literal translation:

> "We know that everyone who has been born of God does not sin, but the one born of God keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him."

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Key Greek Words & Grammar

1. πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ (pas ho gegennēmenos ek tou Theou)

"Everyone who has been born of God."

γεγεννημένος = perfect passive participle of γεννάω (to beget, to give birth).

The perfect tense emphasizes a completed action with continuing results — the person has been regenerated and remains in that state.

2. οὐχ ἁμαρτάνει (ouch hamartanei)

Present active indicative of ἁμαρτάνω ("to sin").

Present tense indicates habitual or ongoing action.

Translation nuance: "does not keep on sinning" rather than "never commits a single sin."

The Greek negation οὐχ makes it a strong "not at all" — John emphasizes the believer does not continue in sin as a way of life.

3. ἀλλ᾽ ὁ γεννηθεὶς ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ τηρεῖ ἑαυτόν (all' ho gennētheìs ek tou Theoû tēreî heautón)

"But the one born of God keeps himself."

τηρεῖ = present indicative of τηρέω, "to keep, guard, preserve."

Indicates active, ongoing self-preservation through reliance on God's Spirit, not human perfection.

4. ὁ πονηρὸς οὐχ ἅπτει αὐτοῦ (ho ponērós ouch háptei autoû)

"The evil one does not touch him."

ὁ πονηρὸς = the Evil One (Satan).

ἅπτει = present indicative of ἅπτω, "to lay hold of, touch."

Shows divine protection over the believer as a result of being born of God.

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Exegesis and Theological Implications

1. Perfect participle + present tense:

The believer has already been born of God (regeneration).

Because of this, he does not continue sinning habitually (present tense).

2. Active preservation:

"Keeps himself" is not self-salvation but describes active reliance on the Spirit, guarding against habitual sin.

3. Contrast with the evil one:

The verse emphasizes that Satan cannot claim dominion over someone born of God.

4. Pastoral implication:

John is giving assurance: regeneration is real, permanent, and transformative, not just theoretical.

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Summary in One Line:

> "Whoever has been born of God is permanently transformed and no longer lives in habitual sin; he actively relies on God's Spirit to guard himself, and the evil one cannot dominate him."

Seriously?

Seriously? The sister of Kim Kooiker (with whom I was friends with for a while while we were both at Calvin, & later also worked together at PRCH ) made a complaint to police because I sent Kim a kind & caring postcard, but accidentally sent it to the  address of her sister,  and the sister  reported this to the police ? Seriously? 

tribute to calvin professors Incl seminary

 

new video from semester in spain !

 

Understanding 1 John 3.9:Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin...

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

— 1 John 3:9 (KJV)

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🌿 Explanation:

This verse from 1 John 3:9 can sound confusing at first glance, as it seems to say that a true Christian cannot sin. However, the original Greek and the context of John's writing reveal a deeper meaning.

The Greek verb translated as "commit" (ποιεῖ, poiei) actually implies "to practice continually" or "to make a habit of." Therefore, the verse is not claiming that believers are incapable of ever sinning, but that those who are truly born of God — that is, regenerated by the Holy Spirit — do not live in continuous, unrepentant sin.

John is contrasting two lifestyles:

The one born of God shows evidence of a transformed heart, a new nature that resists sin and seeks righteousness.

The one not born of God lives habitually in sin, showing no change or remorse.

When it says "his seed remaineth in him," that refers to God's divine nature or the Holy Spirit dwelling within the believer. This inner presence restrains the believer from comfortably continuing in sin.

10.4.25 Football: Alma defeats Calvin 55-6

  The Alma Scots dominated the Calvin Knights with a decisive 55–6 victory in Alma, Michigan. Quarterback Carter St. John led the Scots' offense, amassing 320 passing yards and connecting with Eddie Williams for a 75-yard touchdown. Running back Zach Poff added 164 rushing yards and a touchdown. For Calvin, quarterback Thomas Vaccaro threw for 168 yards, while Leighton Kolk contributed with a receiving touchdown. The Scots' defense stifled Calvin's offense, forcing multiple turnovers and keeping the Knights from scoring until late in the game. Despite the lopsided score, Calvin's young team showed resilience and potential for future growth.  (summary by AI: always verify)

also see 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401776790/calvin-univers-alma?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Calvin defeats Kalamazoo to remain undefeated in college football

🏰 Calvin University Knights

Opponent: Kalamazoo College Hornets

Final Score: Calvin University 24, Kalamazoo College 16

Game Summary: Calvin University secured their first Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA) win of the season, improving to 4-0 overall and 1-0 in conference play. 

YES, Calvin does have a Turning Point chapter (since 2020)

https://calvinchimes.org/2020/09/24/calvin-students-start-two-new-political-clubs/

Powerful moment:✝️ “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do,” Erika said, "That young man. I forgive him

https://thefederalist.com/2025/09/22/100-million-witness-the-power-of-the-gospel-forgiveness-at-charlie-kirk-memorial/ 

"100 Million Hear Gospel At

 Charlie Kirk's Memorial "

"

The most powerful moment of the memorial occurred when Charlie's widow, Erika Kirk, announced she forgave the 22-year-old man accused of assassinating her husband. Less than two weeks after her husband was taken from her, Erika publicly committed to releasing resentment and embracing healing only possible through her faith.

"Father, forgive them, for they know not  what they do," Erika said, quoting the words Jesus Christ uttered as he was crucified..."

Verse of the day 9.8.25

Blessed are those who 

hunger & thirst

 for righteousness, 

for they will be filled.

      -Matthew 5:6

What is "calvin ball "

https://search.brave.com/search?q=calvin+ball+calvin+and+hobbes&source=web&summary=1&conversation=141e863518dd513e0b0675 

some of you CRC'ers have heard of "Bellflower" (a tiny CA CRC hub) but don't know much about it

https://the-beauty-of-bellflower.blogspot.com/

i found this "bellflower blog" which is also about los angeles county and southern california news, but seems to have been started by somebody affiliated with Bellflower CRC and Valley Christian. 

Calvin's brand new football 🏈 field ready to play on !

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/calvin-university-kicks-off-season-160100080.html

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Verse of the Day 7.24.25

"I have fought the good fight,  finished the race, kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the Crown 👑 of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

    -2 Tim 4:7-8

a congressman since 2011 (CRC , Calvin) "Bill Huizenga won’t run for Michigan Senate" -

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/07/23/congress/bill-huizenga-michigan-senate-00470679 

"

Born to a family of Dutch Americans, Huizenga is the co-owner and operator of Huizenga Gravel Company, a family business in Jenison, Michigan. In the early 1990s, he worked in real estate. He left real estate in 1996, becoming an aide to U.S. representative Pete Hoekstra..."

Winsome Earle-Sears - authored a Christian self-help book, 'Stop Being a Christian Wimp!' 😁😆😅👍

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winsome_Earle-Sears 

"

Sears is married to Terence Sears.[49] She has had three daughters. One of Sears's daughters died in a 2012 car crash, along with Sears's two granddaughters.[50] As of 2016, she and her family resided in Winchester.[51] She is a devout Christian,[52] and authored a Christian self-help book, Stop Being a Christian Wimp!, before entering politics.[53][

How did Average Dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & CRCNA bigwig ? B/c he married a Borgdorf ?

How did Average Dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & crcna bigwig ? Because he married a Borgdorf ?

"delegates concerned that shifting offices closer to Calvin U& Seminary could reinforce a Grand Rapids-centric culture, potentially alienating church members elsewhere...

Read more 
(https://x.com/infoprayerwar/status/1945829611067384077?t=xD1t7SV7RSWexKD1qEBnoA&s=03) 

How did average dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & crcna bigwig ? Because he married a Borgdorf ? 

"delegates concerned that shifting offices closer to Calvin U& Seminary could reinforce a Grand Rapids-centric culture, potentially alienating church members elsewhereHow did average dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & crcna bigwig ? Because he married a Borgdorf ? 

"During CRCNA discussions about moving from the 28th Street headquarters, some delegates voiced worries that shifting offices closer to Calvin University and Calvin Seminary could reinforce a Grand Rapids-centric culture, potentially alienating church members elsewhere .

A delegate cautioned:

> "There is a culture that's being developed that's not really reflective of the whole of the CRC..."

📌 Background & Appointment

Responsibilities:

🛠️ Previous Experience

🏛️ Roles at CRCNA & Grand Rapids HQ Changes

🧭 Focus & Vision

🧾 Summary

Name Position Start Background

Dan DeKam Director, U.S. Ministry Operations July 3, 2023 Christian education leader, administrator

Has a strong education leadership background and deep ties to West Michigan schools

 [(only Muskegon?)]

As the administrative head, he now oversees CRCNA's U.S. ministry operations, emphasizing collaboration, stewardship, and unity.

Played a leading role in the relocation of CRCNA's U.S. HQ and guides ministry boards amid cultural and governance transitions.

Did he give an update at CRC synod '25? Why isn't he required to attend Synod for that matter ? Why does the CRCNA main office have to be in West Michigan for that matter ? 

How did average dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & crcna bigwig ⁉️

How did average dude Dan Dekam become the head honcho & crcna bigwig ? Because he married a Borgdorf ? 

"During CRCNA discussions about moving from the 28th Street headquarters, some delegates voiced worries that shifting offices closer to Calvin University and Calvin Seminary could reinforce a Grand Rapids-centric culture, potentially alienating church members elsewhere .

A delegate cautioned:

> "There is a culture that's being developed that's not really reflective of the whole of the CRC..."

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📌 Background & Appointment

• Responsibilities:

🛠️ Previous Experience

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🏛️ Roles at CRCNA & Grand Rapids HQ Changes

🧭 Focus & Vision

🧾 Summary

Name	Position	Start	Background
Dan DeKam	Director, U.S. Ministry Operations	July 3, 2023	Christian education leader, administrator

• Has a strong education leadership background and deep ties to West Michigan schools
•  [(only Muskegon?)]
• As the administrative head, he now oversees CRCNA's U.S. ministry operations, emphasizing collaboration, stewardship, and unity.
• Played a leading role in the relocation of CRCNA's U.S. HQ and guides ministry boards amid cultural and governance transitions.

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Would you like more details on any specific aspect—like the move to the new building in Grand Rapids, his governance role, or his earlier educational achievements?

Did he give an update at CRC synod '25? Why isn't he required to attend Synod for that matter ? Why does the CRCNA main office have to be in West Michigan for that matter ? 

American Christians live by Two Declarations ✝️🇺🇲🎆.Happy 4th of July Independence +& Dependence)Day 💥

• American Christians live by 
• Two Declarations ✝️🇺🇲🎆

Declaration of Dependence ✝️📖 : "It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, & do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery....I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing..."

Declaration of Independence 🇺🇲🗽

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."

VOD 6.21.25

"And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit."

2 Corinthians 3:18

summary of Synod 2025

provided by ChatGPT                                                    (always double check & verify) 

"Synod 2025 of the Christian Reformed Church in North America (CRCNA), held June 13–19 at Redeemer University in Ancaster, Ontario, addressed several significant issues affecting the denomination. Here's a summary of key decisions:(thebanner.org)

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🔗 Ecumenical Relations

• Reformed Church in America (RCA): Synod affirmed the CRCNA's relationship with the RCA as a "church in communion," contingent upon RCA officebearers' willingness to sign the CRCNA's Covenant for Officebearers when required. This decision follows a review of the RCA's stance on human sexuality, noting that while the RCA officially holds the same convictions as the CRCNA, there is latitude within the RCA for differing practices. (thebanner.org)

• Alliance of Reformed Churches: Synod agreed to pursue a church-in-communion relationship with the Alliance of Reformed Churches, recognizing it as the closest ecumenical category of relationships the CRCNA has.(thebanner.org)

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🏛️ Governance and Structure

• Office of General Secretary: Synod decided against creating a separate legal entity for the Office of General Secretary, citing recent leadership and structural changes that have addressed previous concerns.(thebanner.org)

• Loan Fund Governance: The Council of Delegates was granted authority to make changes to the mission and governance of the Christian Reformed Church Loan Fund, Inc., U.S., streamlining decision-making processes.(crcna.org)

• Ministry Reviews: Synod approved a guideline for conducting ministry reviews, aiming to enhance accountability and effectiveness within the denomination.(thebanner.org)

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📖 Theological and Doctrinal Matters

• Bible Translation: The Bible Translation Committee recommended against using the Easy-to-Read Version (ERV) for general worship, citing concerns about its translation methodology and faithfulness to the original texts. The ERV may be suitable for specific contexts like children's worship or devotional reading. (thebanner.org)

• Assisted Suicide: A task force report on assisted suicide reaffirmed the CRCNA's position against the practice, emphasizing compassionate palliative care and pastoral support for those facing suffering and end-of-life issues. (thebanner.org)

• Virtual Church: Synod acknowledged the potential of virtual churches to embody the three marks of a true church but emphasized the need for intentional planning, particularly regarding the administration of sacraments and church discipline. (thebanner.org)

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🧭 Church Unity and Disagreement

• Covenant Community Toolkit: Synod tasked Pastor-Church Resources with developing a toolkit to help churches discern their hopes for covenant community, especially in light of potential covenant realignments. (hesedprojectcrc.org)

• Survey on Disagreement: The Office of the General Secretary was directed to create a survey to gather feedback from churches on how to navigate respectful disagreement within the denomination, with results to be shared transparently.(hesedprojectcrc.org)

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🧱 Church Order and Discipline

• Confessional Alignment: Synod reinforced the requirement that all officebearers affirm the CRCNA's confessions without reservation. Those with reservations are expected to either align with the confessions, submit a confessional-revision gravamen, or resign from office. (christiancourier.ca)

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These decisions reflect the CRCNA's ongoing efforts to address theological, structural, and relational challenges within the denomination. If you would like more detailed information on any of these topics, feel free to ask.(crcna.org) "